tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post5134271663726109312..comments2023-08-25T21:58:53.800+02:00Comments on Old Apostolic Church revealed: Doctrine - 2nd TenetEx-OAC critichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-15377340679630143372020-09-04T20:58:56.961+02:002020-09-04T20:58:56.961+02:00Paul, who was the last and the least of all the ap...Paul, who was the last and the least of all the apostles, had an occupation as a tentmaker.<br /><br /><b>Acts 18:1-3</b><br />After these things Paul departed from <a href="http://kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/Athens" rel="nofollow">Athens</a>, and came to <a href="http://kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/corinth" rel="nofollow">Corinth</a>;<br />And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in <a href="http://kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/pontus" rel="nofollow">Pontus</a>, lately come from <a href="https://images.app.goo.gl/UFSSaoWY4Mcs451X9" rel="nofollow">Italy</a>, with his wife Priscilla;<br /><i>(because that <a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Claudius-Roman-emperor" rel="nofollow">Claudius</a> had commanded all Jews to <a href="https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/tools/ask-a-scholar/jews-in-rome" rel="nofollow">depart from Rome</a>:)</i> and came unto them. And because he was of the <b>same craft</b>, he abode with them, and wrought:<br />for by their <b>occupation</b> they were <b>tentmakers</b>.<br /><br />Paul coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. He remembered the words of the <a href="http://oldapostolicchurchrevealed.blogspot.co.za/2016/08/the-real-jesus.html" rel="nofollow">Lord Jesus</a> that it is more blessed to give than to receive (Acts 20:33-35). Paul set the example by working day and night so that he wouldn’t be a burden to anyone, he earned the bread he was given (2 Thessalonians 3:8-9).Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-49472561594147683602020-09-02T20:49:21.501+02:002020-09-02T20:49:21.501+02:00“Receive every apostle that comes to you as you wo...<i>“Receive every <b>apostle</b> that comes to you as you would the Lord. But he must not stay more than one day, or two if necessary: but <b>if he stays three days, he is a false prophet</b>. When an <b>apostle</b> leaves you, <b>give him nothing except bread</b> until he finds shelter. <b>If he asks for money, he is a false prophet</b>.”</i> – The <a href="https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/study/module/didache/" rel="nofollow">Didache</a> on teachers, apostles and prophets<br /><br /><i>” The <b>average salary of the Apostels were R100 000 per MONTH</b>.<br />The average salary of the Fourfold officers that worked for Head Office from 8 to 5 pm as an employee on a natural basis, was around R60 000 per month.<br />Then, they also got a FULL 100% Bonus In November, which meant a juicy R100 000 to R120 000 salary. And these positions that these Fourfold officers held were very mundane positions of managing maintenance on the halls and so on. Something that any other person could do for R25 000 per month.<br />On top of that, they received R15 000 house subsidies.<br />Cell phone alowences and also shared a pool car and received travel allowances.<br />These <b>exorbitant salaries and perks totalled 60% of the cost to run KZN region</b>.<br />Yes.. <b>only 40% of the funds/ tithes were allocated to maintenance of halls, municipal costs and so on</b>.”</i> – 2014 Financial Documents and Budgets for <a href="http://www.oldapostolic.com/congr_detail.asp?varidno=1780" rel="nofollow">OAC KZN</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00584233293671073352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-10379598006815336262017-08-11T23:08:05.066+02:002017-08-11T23:08:05.066+02:00Rom 8:1-8 There is therefore now no condemnation t...Rom 8:1-8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-32079997799295517602017-08-11T22:36:51.786+02:002017-08-11T22:36:51.786+02:00Understood. Thanks for sharing.Understood. Thanks for sharing.Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-27561390066426039972017-08-11T22:30:24.890+02:002017-08-11T22:30:24.890+02:00http://www.plainsimplefaith.com/2014/05/he-who-is-...http://www.plainsimplefaith.com/2014/05/he-who-is-without-sin-cast-the-first-taken-out-of-context-stone/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-77148237113442774962017-08-11T11:45:28.366+02:002017-08-11T11:45:28.366+02:00Sorry, no. John 8 was not Jesus doing away with th...Sorry, no. John 8 was not Jesus doing away with the death penalty, in fact the death penalty was even reinforced by it + other places. <br /><br />The key phrase which many people miss in John 8 is in verse 6: "This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him." So, the scribes and Pharisees brought Jesus a woman taken in adultery. Now consider this:<br />1) the penalty for adultery was death of both adulterer and adulteress. Where was the adulterer? It takes two to commit adultery.<br />2) in a court of law; the Jews would have taken her to be tried for adultery, but since there was no man, they are accusing her of adultery without a man present. How can they find her guilty if they can't even confirm who the man was?<br />3) Isn't it a bit suspicious that they would take a criminal worthy of death to a man whom they respected not, you take criminals straight to jail/court. <br />4) The Jews ask Jesus - "Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" - so the Jews know Jesus claimed to be God, therefore knows every word of God. So they already know that Jesus knows the penalty for adultery is death. Therefore, why are they even bothering to ask Jesus???<br />5) Judea was under Roman rule, and by law they couldn't sentence anyone to death, the Romans had to OK it first.<br />6) So, if Jesus said "stone the adulterous whore", they would run to the Romans "Jesus is commanding people to kill, that's against the law!". But if Jesus said "according to Roman law, let her go" then He violates the Bible. So the whole situation is not an issue of judgment, it was a trap to get Jesus to either deny God's Word, or to get Him jailed!<br /><br />And with that in mind... "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."<br /><br />This answer works because:<br />1) He did not command them to kill her, therefore is not guilty under Roman law<br />2) He did not tell them to NOT stone her.<br /><br />So often, John 8 is abused to mean "I want to commit adultery, commit sodomy, steal, drink booze, and you can't judge me!!!". The whole point of the passage is that they were trying to lure Jesus into a trap and He didn't fall for it. In God's eyes the death penalty never got abolished - people/regimes changed, God does not change.<br />You Knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-23389122225515321492017-08-08T22:14:02.462+02:002017-08-08T22:14:02.462+02:00Christ Came to Fulfill the Law
Mat 5:17-20 Think n...Christ Came to Fulfill the Law<br />Mat 5:17-20 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.<br /><br />Under the term, “the law, or the prophets” our Lord includes the entire range of the Old Testament. See Luk 24:44; Act 13:15. Nothing could exceed our Lord’s reverence for the oracles of God. He repeatedly refers to them as of divine authority. His words and teachings are the endorsement of the venerable Scriptures which had nourished His people, preparing them for His further instruction. See Rom 3:31; Rom 8:4.<br /><br />To all of us Christ offers rest, not in the other life only, but in this. Rest from the weight of sin, from care and worry, from the load of daily anxiety and foreboding. The rest that arrives from handing all worries over to Christ, and receiving from Christ all we need. If we disobey, we cannot believe; but when we believe we are sure to obey. Our risen Lord has finished the work of Redemption and rests, as God did when He pronounced Creation to be “very good.” When we understand what He meant by “It is finished,” we, too, shall rest.<br /><br />Col 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-73232619955959108802017-08-07T22:14:05.640+02:002017-08-07T22:14:05.640+02:00The death penalty was handled differently by Jesus...The death penalty was handled differently by Jesus though (Leviticus 20:10, John 8:3-11).Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-983612922726629702017-08-07T15:49:49.190+02:002017-08-07T15:49:49.190+02:00Jesus made appearances in the OT. For example, the...Jesus made appearances in the OT. For example, the 4th man in the fire who was like the Son of God (book of Daniel). More discussed on this YT sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV8Pis4_LcU<br /><br />And as for understanding the Trinity, anyone would understand it after this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKwPJl4jgo8You Knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-36458676731101972132017-08-07T15:45:34.985+02:002017-08-07T15:45:34.985+02:00Most of the Levitical laws do still apply today. N...Most of the Levitical laws do still apply today. Now, the Sabbath, the food laws, carnal ordinances, holidays are no longer in force as they were a picture of things to come (for example, the Sabbath was a day of rest, Hebrews 4 Jesus IS our rest). See Colossians 2, Hebrews 4+9. But all the legal stuff still applies, God never changed His mind. So e.g. if the penalty for adultery, sodomy, etc is death - it should still be death today. If the penalty for theft is restitution 2x-4x-5x, it should be restitution. Just because the governments of the world hate God and legislate the exact opposite, doesn't mean God changed. There is not a single word in the Bible that should be removed, in fact doing that means your name is removed from the book of life while you're yet alive! (Revelation 22:18-19)You Knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-38612227144952078072017-08-03T09:57:43.500+02:002017-08-03T09:57:43.500+02:00Christ was there from before the beginning (John 1...Christ was there from before the beginning (John 1:1). In the beginning the Word (Logos/Divine Expression) already was which means the Word is eternal and existed before the beginning. Eight times in Genesis 1 we read “And God said”. By the word of the LORD were the heavens made (Psalms 33:6). John sums these all up as the Word that created all things. The manifestation of the Word is the light of the world, namely Jesus when the Word took on flesh (John 1:4-5). Notice that John (an apostle) in John 1:14 is speaking in the past tense and John is not referring to his own words or those of the other apostles. Neither is he referring to his own flesh or that of the other apostles. Jesus is the only begotten of the Father and John was an eyewitness of Jesus the Messiah, whose name is called ‘The Word of God’ (Revelation 19:13). When John names the three that bear record in heaven, he calls Him ‘Word’ rather than ‘Son’ (1 John 5:7). Because Christ is the Word, it not only refers to the Father that begot Him but also to everything made by Him.<br /><br />…and yet your confession of faith claims that you believe in the Holy Scriptures, the Old and the New Testament, and in the fulfillment of all the promises contained therein. But you don’t believe Acts 1:6-11!Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-22563849283733386742017-08-02T22:20:26.498+02:002017-08-02T22:20:26.498+02:00You must note that the word “recommend” does not a...You must note that the word “recommend” does not appear anywhere for any site, you’re jumping to your own conclusions.Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-82143171171478281792017-08-02T22:19:20.823+02:002017-08-02T22:19:20.823+02:00Do you understand the difference between the old c...Do you understand the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant? Do you understand that you don’t need to sacrifice livestock for your sins anymore (Leviticus 8:2, Leviticus 9:15, Leviticus 16:5-10, Hebrews 9:12-13, Hebrews 10:4)? Do you appreciate the magnitude of what Jesus actually came to do for us? The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. There’s no need to remove any books from Scripture because they make us wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-81148065481785245262017-08-02T13:25:51.625+02:002017-08-02T13:25:51.625+02:00You must note that some of the sites that you reco...You must note that some of the sites that you recommend consider disabilities and mental disorders as demon possession, that leads to the conclusion that to you people with disabilities and mental disorders are cursed by God and therefore not welcome in the church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-45475196815042864352017-08-02T12:26:35.575+02:002017-08-02T12:26:35.575+02:00So, the book of Leviticus can be removed from the ...So, the book of Leviticus can be removed from the Bible, as it has no use for today's Christians!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-5912432244500573402017-08-02T12:18:35.074+02:002017-08-02T12:18:35.074+02:00But Christ was with Israel when Moses wrote down t...But Christ was with Israel when Moses wrote down the Levitical law.<br />1 Cor 10: 4<br />And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.<br />You've got a Catch 22.<br />The Order of Melchizedek existed in the time of Abraham. Psa 110: 4.<br />The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.<br />This implicates that Melchizedek was the founder of the Order of whom Chirst was Priest, and Melchizedek predates Christ. That means Melchizedek is the Most High God, to whom even Jesus gave offering through Abraham.<br />Hebr 7: 1-3<br />1For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.<br />Melchizedek is without beginning, therefore he is God and His Order existed and over ruled Christ. Because, according to your belief, God who like Melchizedek is without beginning used Moses as a Ghost writer, to enact the Levite law, while Christ was with Moses.<br />How do you explain Melchizedek then? How do you explain the fact that Christ was already with the Israelites during the Exodus?<br /><br />...and yet you still wait for a man in a beard to come down from the clouds! A man who is also his own father/son, who let himself be crucified, and who has forsaken himself. That is schizophrenic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-45884422503735996472017-08-02T09:32:13.102+02:002017-08-02T09:32:13.102+02:00That applied if you were called to enter the sanct...That applied if you were called to enter the sanctuary after the order of Aaron, read the whole chapter for context. You do know that he Levitical priesthood is not applicable to the Christian church right (Hebrews 3:1-6)?<br /><br />Hebrews 7:11-28 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-24913556707334619802017-08-02T09:31:22.218+02:002017-08-02T09:31:22.218+02:00Check out the following links for more information...Check out the following links for more information:<br />http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html<br />http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0714.htm<br />https://www.christianhistoryinstitute.org/study/module/didache/Ex-OAC critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706738902142655667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-91548474403919061582017-08-02T09:06:30.386+02:002017-08-02T09:06:30.386+02:00How do you ensure that disabled persons do not ent...How do you ensure that disabled persons do not enter a church as God commanded in Lev 21: 16-23. <br />And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 'Speak to Aaron, saying, None of your offspring throughout their generations who has a blemish may approach to offer the bread of his God. For no one who has a blemish shall draw near, a man blind or lame, or one who has a mutilated face or a limb too long, or a man who has an injured foot or an injured hand, or a hunchback or a dwarf or a man with a defect in his sight or an itching disease or scabs or crushed testicles. No man of the offspring of Aaron the priest who has a blemish shall come near to offer the Lord's food offerings; since he has a blemish, he shall not come near to offer the bread of his God. He … shall not go through the veil or approach the altar, because he has a blemish, that he may not profane my sanctuaries, for I am the Lord who sanctifies them.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425669952325692452.post-7452272350652589752017-08-02T08:27:15.528+02:002017-08-02T08:27:15.528+02:00BTW which translation of The Didache did you use? ...BTW which translation of The Didache did you use? This is important!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com