Friday, 19 August 2016

Doctrine - Apostles today


Apostles and underdeacons

An OAC member wrote: “...En hoekom is die Kerk die regte Kerk? Want dit is gebou op die fondament van die Apostel en die Profeet(Efesiers 2v20)…en alle die ampte wat in die skrifte van gepraat word is in die Leer van die Apostel te vinde...” Sic
For those of you who don’t understand Afrikaans, this member is saying that the OAC is the right church “...because it’s built on the foundation of the apostle and prophet (Ephesians 2v20)... and all the offices mentioned in the scriptures are found in the doctrine of the apostle...”

This is like saying that if you call your skateboard a Ferrari then your skateboard must be the right racing car.

One OAC "Apostle" takes over from another OAC "Apostle"

Some OAC members like to boast that all of their offices are mentioned in the Bible and then poke fun at other churches that don’t have the offices of “apostle”, “prophet” or “evangelist”.

These OAC members believe their argument carries more weight when someone from another church can’t show the titles of their officers in the Bible. They conveniently ignore the fact that there’s no mention in the Bible of “underdeacon” either. The OAC also don’t have bishops and deacons which are specifically mentioned as offices in the Bible (1 Timothy 3:1-13, 2 Timothy 4:22, Titus 1:7-9, Titus 3:15). The offices of bishop and deacon did exist in the Catholic Apostolic Church which forms a part of the history of the OAC. There’s also no mention in the Bible that an “overseer” is the double office of a “pastor” and a “teacher”. As for the need for “priest”, Jesus did away with the Levitical priesthood forever when He became our eternal High Priest (Hebrews 7:1-28). Jesus’ priesthood after the order of Melchisedec is forever and non-transferable (Hebrews 7:24).

Hebrews 7:24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

According to Strong’s, the word “unchangeable” is translated from the Greek word aparabatos and is defined as:
not passing away, that is, untransferable (perpetual): - unchangeable.

Regarding the titles of the office bearers of “apostle”, “prophet” and “evangelist”, this is based on a literal interpretation of certain passages in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 12:27-28 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Ephesians 2:19-20 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

If the literal titles of “apostle” and “prophet” are literally applicable, then there should also be literal titles in the OAC for “teacher”, “miracle”, “gift of healing”, “diversity of tongues” etc. (1 Corinthians 12:27-28).

Further reading of the Bible reveals that certain women were known as prophetesses whereas every female congregant in the OAC is simply known as “sister” (Exodus 15:20, Judges 4:4, 2 Kings 22:14, 2 Chronicles 34:22, Nehemiah 6:14, Isaiah 8:3, Luke 2:36).

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

At this point some OAC members may say that these are not titles, but the gifts of Christ. They will then use the example of Christ Jesus and say that Christ is the “gift” and that Jesus is the “flesh”. Then they will imply that “Brother Jones” for example carries the spiritual gift of “brother” and that “Jones” is his flesh.


  • Firstly, Jesus IS the Christ (Matthew 1:16, Matthew 16:20, Matthew 26:63, Matthew 27:17, Matthew 27:22, Mark 12:35, John 20:31, Acts 2:36, Acts 17:3, Acts 18:5, Acts 18:28, Romans 8:11, 1 John 2:22, 1 John 5:1) and throughout the Bible, Jesus and Christ are used interchangeably.
  • Secondly, spiritual gifts are functions of the Spirit, not offices or titles (1 Corinthians 12:1-31) and the best gift is charity (1 Corinthians 13:1-3).
  • Thirdly, nowhere in the Bible will we read of “apostle Peter” or “apostle Paul” in that order as if it were an office or a title. What we do read is “an apostle of Jesus Christ” and that Paul was also an apostle of the Gentiles (Romans 11:13).


Paul was an unmarried apostle and if the Bible is supposed to be understood “spiritually” and not literally according to the OAC, then there’s no reason why the OAC’s unmarried single members and “sisters” can’t also be ordained as “officers” (Matthew 19:10-12, Matthew 22:29-30, Mark 12:24-25, Luke 20:34-36, Romans 16:1-3, 1 Corinthians 7:7-8, 1 Corinthians 7:32-40).

There are also other churches who claim to have “apostles” because they believe that additional “apostles” were ordained besides the twelve apostles chosen by Jesus. They cite Ananias, Andronicus, Junias, Epaphroditus, Silvanus, James the Lord’s brother and Apollos as examples.


  • Jesus sent seventy disciples in pairs to the cities (Luke 10:1-17) but there are never more than twelve apostles mentioned (Matthew 10:1-4, 1 Corinthians 15:4-7).
  • Regarding Ananias, the Bible doesn’t refer to him as an apostle but as a certain disciple (Acts 9:10, Acts 9:17-18, Acts 22:12).
  • Andronicus and Junias are mentioned only once in the whole Bible and the Bible does not say that they were apostles (Romans 16:7). They were Paul’s kinsmen and fellow prisoners, and therefore of note among the apostles. It doesn’t say of note as apostles.
  • Epaphroditus is mentioned only three times in the Bible and not once is he referred to as an apostle (Philippians 2:25, Philippians 4:18, Philippians 4:23).
  • Silvanus is mentioned only four times in the Bible and not once is he referred to as an apostle (2 Corinthians 1:19, 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 2 Thessalonians 1:1, 1 Peter 5:12).
  • James, the Lord’s brother is not called an apostle (Galatians 1:19, 1 Corinthians 15:7).
  • Apollos is mentioned ten times in the Bible and not once is he referred to as an apostle (Acts 18:24, Acts 19:1, 1 Corinthians 1:12, 1 Corinthians 3:4-6, 1 Corinthians 3:22, 1 Corinthians 4:6, 1 Corinthians 16:12, Titus 3:13).


Saul (his Aramaic/Hebrew name) also known as Paul (his Roman/Greek name) was selected by Jesus Himself to be a chosen vessel to bear His name before the Gentiles, kings and children of Israel. Jesus selected him to suffer for His name’s sake (Acts 9:1-16). Jesus called Paul to be an apostle, Paul himself literally saw Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 9:1). He was the last of all the apostles to see Jesus as of one born out of due time. Paul considered himself as the least of all the apostles and didn’t feel fit to be called an apostle (1 Corinthians 15:3-9). Despite the way he felt, Paul displayed all the signs of a true apostle through signs, wonders and mighty deeds (2 Corinthians 12:12). You’ll notice that Paul wasn’t “prophesied” into apostleship.

Barnabas was one of certain prophets and teachers in the church at Antioch (Acts 13:1). As they fasted, they received an instruction from the Holy Ghost for Barnabas and Saul to go preach the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews in Salamis (Acts 13:2-5). Later on Barnabas and Paul are referred to collectively as apostles (Acts 14:14). They didn’t operate independently though, they still went to Jerusalem to consult with the apostles and elders when there was a dispute (Acts 15:2). There was also sharp contention between Paul and Barnabas (Acts 15:36-41).

According to Strong’s, the word “apostle” is translated from the Greek word apostolos and is defined as:
a delegate; specifically an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ (“apostle”), (with miraculous powers): - apostle, messenger, he that is sent.

The same Greek word apostolos is also used to mean:

  • “...he that is sent...”
  • “...they are the messengers...”
  • “...messenger...”


John 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

2 Corinthians 8:23 Whether any do enquire of Titus, he is my partner and fellowhelper concerning you: or our brethren be enquired of, they are the messengers of the churches, and the glory of Christ.

Philippians 2:25 Yet I supposed it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, and companion in labour, and fellowsoldier, but your messenger, and he that ministered to my wants.

Therefore in a broader sense, the word “apostle” is transferred to the other eminent Christian teachers who were sent as messengers. Not as an office or a title, but as a function. To be a messenger you don’t need to carry an official title of “Messenger”. Anybody can be a messenger, even a pigeon or a child could be a messenger without an official title. The messenger isn’t greater than the message.

Jesus had many more disciples but only twelve were selected to be His apostles. Therefore in a narrower sense, the word “apostle” is specially applied to the twelve disciples of Jesus who were selected out of the multitude of His disciples. They were His constant companions and were called to proclaim the kingdom of God to men (Luke 6:13, Luke 22:14). To these twelve apostles He also gave the power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease (Matthew 10:1). Jesus’ apostles and disciples were literally able to heal the sick and raise the dead (Mark 6:7-13, Acts 3:1-16, Acts 5:12-16, Acts 8:5-8, Acts 9:36-43, Acts 14:8-18, Acts 20:7-12, Acts 28:3-9).

The names of the twelve apostles that were handpicked by Jesus (Matthew 10:2-4):

  • Simon, who is called Peter
  • Andrew (brother of Simon, who is called Peter)
  • James the son of Zebedee
  • John (brother of James, son of Zebedee)
  • Philip
  • Bartholomew
  • Thomas
  • Matthew the publican
  • James the son of Alphaeus
  • Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
  • Simon the Canaanite
  • Judas Iscariot


Judas was numbered with these twelve and obtained part of the ministry (Psalm 41:9, John 13:18). After Judas by transgression fell, only one other was ordained to be numbered with the eleven remaining apostles. He had to be a witness with them of Jesusresurrection, beginning from the baptism of John unto the same day that Jesus was taken up from them. Two were appointed; Barsabas Justus and Matthias. Then they prayed and gave forth their lots and the lot fell upon Matthias to be numbered with the eleven apostles (Acts 1:15-26). You’ll notice that Matthias wasn’t “prophesied” into apostleship.

That great city, the holy Jerusalem out of heaven from God has twelve gates named after the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. The wall of the city has twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb (Revelations 21:10-14).

In other words you won’t see the names of Klibbe or Ninow or Campbell or Boshoff or Dywili or Sgenu on these holy foundations. Before a house is built, the foundation first needs to be laid. Once the foundation has been laid, the house can be built. Once building starts, there’s no need to lay the foundation again!

A foundation is only laid once

There is only one instance in the whole Bible where Apostle is spelled with a capital “A”:

Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus

The Apostle and High Priest is not a church or some mere mortal thousands of years later, but the one and only Jesus the Christ (1 Timothy 2:5).

11 comments:

  1. Utterly pet suvject material, Really enjoyed reading.

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  2. OAK TOK/OAC HTC
    5) (Eerste) Belofte van God Reënboog: Na die sondvloed belowe God dat die aarde en die skepsels daarop nie weer deur ‘n watervloed vernietig sal word nie. Hy gee Sy teken in die hemele om Sy verbond / belofte te bevestig. Hierdie kleurvolle reënboog het ook ‘n geestelike betekenis vir die Kerk vandag, naamlik die amptestruktuur [GEN 9:11-17]

    5) Promise of God: Rainbow. After the deluge, God promised that a flood of water should never again destroy the earth and its creatures. He gave His sign in the heavens to confirm this covenant / promise. This colourful rainbow also has a spiritual meaning to us in the Church today, i.e. the officer structure in the Church. [GEN 9:11-17]

    Gen 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
    Gen 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
    Gen 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
    Gen 9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
    Gen 9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
    Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
    Gen 9:17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

    …This colourful rainbow also has a spiritual meaning to us in the Church today, i.e. the officer structure in the Church…???
    A rainbow has seven colors; Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo and Violet.
    The natural is the forerunner of the spiritual, thus the OAC’s imaginary rainbow looks like this:
    Red = Elder
    Orange = Fourfold Office (Evangelist, Prophet, Overseer)
    Yellow = Underdeacon
    Green = Priest
    Blue = Sister
    Indigo = ???
    Violet = ???
    What about the rest of the Officers??? Where does the brother (Brown) and the apostle (White/Silver) fit into this imaginary rainbow Officer structure??? Where does the Bible say that the rainbow is an Officers’ structure??? Where does the Bible speak of an Officer’s structure like that of the OAC???
    The bow is a token of the covenant that the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh [GEN 9:11-15]!!! No mention of Officers!!!

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  3. Yes, the Bible speaks of Deacon and nowhere in the Bible of an Underdeacon or Sub-Deacon. Why do we as the OAC have a Underdeacon?
    The duties of the deacon in the Bible are the work of the Priest.
    The Und Deacon is actually becoming a Priest and serves as a help to the Priest
    Thus the Priest (Shepherd and Teacher) is the Priest for the Congregation and the Underdeacon.
    Elder is the (Shepherd and Teacher) the Priest for the Priests.
    Overseer (Shepherd and Teacher) the Priest for the Elders.
    Apostle (Shepherd and Teacher) the Priest for the Fourfoldofficers (Overseers, Evangelists, and Prophets)

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    1. Anton, you are 100% correct that there’s no mention anywhere in the Bible of an “Underdeacon”, yet you continue to defend a non-Biblical “office” with non-Biblical standpoints. The duties of the priesthood are explained in detail in Numbers 18, there is no mention whatsoever of a deacon’s duties being the work of the “Priest”. Philippians 1:1 refers to bishops and deacons, not “priests and underdeacons”. The deacon is an assistant and the qualifications for a deacon are clearly outlined in 1 Timothy 3:8-13. The English word “deacon” is translated from the Greek word “diakoneō” (διακονέω) which means to be an attendant, that is, wait upon (menially or as a host, friend or [figuratively] teacher). The first time that the word “diakoneō” is used is in Acts 6:2 when the twelve apostles required seven men of honest report full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom to “serve tables”. The seven men selected for this task were Stephen, Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch (Acts 6:1-7).

      I urge you to read and study your Bible so that your understanding may be opened; you are being lied to with unbiblical statements by men who don’t know the Bible.

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  4. Received on one of the WhatsApp groups and I couldn’t have stated it any better:

    I am a:
    humble (i.e. NOT proud)
    [PRO 8:13, PRO 16:5, PRO 16:18-19, PRO 18:12, ECC 7:8, MAR 7:21-23, LUK 1:50-52, ROM 11:20, 1 TIM 6:17-19, JAM 4:5-6, 1 PET 5:4-6]
    Christian (i.e. NOT apostolic)
    [ACT 11:26, ACT 26:28-29, 1 PET 4:16-19]

    ✝ A Christian is a follower of Christ. An apostolic is a follower of a false apostle [2COR 11:13-15].

    ☝ There is only one Apostle spelled with a capital letter, and He is also the High Priest of our profession, His Name is Christ Jesus [HEB 3:1]. He is the only living Apostle that can send the Comforter [JOH 16:7] which is the Holy Ghost [JOH 14:26]. Furthermore, Jesus only chose twelve apostles when He was physically here on earth and He gave them power to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease [MAT 10:1-4, LUK 22:14, REV 21:10-14]. Paul was the last and the least of all the apostles to see Jesus [1COR 15:7-9]. Paul wrought the signs of an apostle among the Corinthians in patience,
    signs,
    and wonders,
    and mighty deeds [2COR 12:12].
    When the eleven apostles chose another to take Judas' bishoprick, it had to be someone that:
    �� was with them all the time that Jesus went in and out among them,
    �� beginning from the baptism of John unto the same day that Jesus was taken up from them,
    �� only one would be ordained that was also a witness of Jesus' resurrection.
    �� Only two out of the about an hundred and twenty disciples qualified to become an apostle, namely:
    �� Joseph Justus (Barsabas)
    �� Matthias

    The eleven apostles then prayed to the Lord to show which of these two He had chosen to take part of the ministry and apostleship from which Judas had fallen. The lot fell upon Matthias to be numbered with the eleven apostles [ACT 1:12-26]. These apostles didn't go around ordaining more apostles after that, they built church communities and ordained elders as bishops, and deacons to serve tables in their communities [ACT 6:1-7, PHP 1:1-2, 1TIM 3:1-13, 2TIM 4:22, TIT 1:5-9, TIT 3:15] .

    �� The Christian church is built upon the foundation of the above mentioned apostles (New Testament) and prophets (Old Testament) of which Jesus Christ is the chief corner stone [EPH 2:19-22]. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ [1COR 3].

    Now I have the following questions for anyone who claims to have the office of Apostle:
    1. who ordained you as an Apostle?
    2. when did you see Jesus of Nazareth?
    3. in which hospitals and clinics are you healing people of all sicknesses and diseases?
    4. which signs, wonders and mighty deeds have you performed and where?
    5. when were you with the eleven apostles while Jesus of Nazareth was preaching, from the time John baptised Him till the time He was taken up from them into heaven?

    * all verses used as reference were found in the KJV and AFR 33 translations

    ”You will always get the originals followed by the fakes and the counterfeits”

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    1. SPIRITUAL
      Christians follow Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit
      Christians believe the Bible through the Holy Spirit
      Christians believe Jesus is the Christ
      Christians believe Jesus is the Word that took on flesh

      FLESH
      Apostolics follow a man claiming to have the gift of an apostle
      Apostolics believe the Bible needs to be interpteted by a man claiming to have the gift of an apostle
      Apostolics believe Jesus Christ is the church and that Jesus is their flesh and Christ is their gift
      Apostolics believe in a word from the flesh of a man claiming to have the gift of an apostle

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  5. UNDERDEACONS?
    Some OAC members seem convinced that “underdeacons” were recorded in the Bible as part of the ministry and that those verses were removed from the Bible. Some time ago an OAC “priest” tried to back this up by stating that the old Dutch Bible made mention of “underdeacons”. The KJV translation and the AFR 33/53 translations are approved by the OAC. The old Dutch Bible does not have additional verses in 1 Timothy 3 and the approved translations did not remove verses from the old Dutch Bible, there never was a 1 Timothy 3:26 speaking about an “underdeacon”.

    In the old Dutch Bible it speaks of a diakenen, not onder diakenen. But when you read through the side notes (kanttekeningen), some OAC members will get all excited when they read “onder diakenen” in side note 26 without reading any further:
    26) eerst beproefd worden, Dit vatten sommigen zo op, alsof er nog een lagere trap in deze bediening ware geweest, die zij onder diakenen noemen, waarin zij eerst voor een tijd moesten worden beproefd; doch dat is niet nodig, daar dit woord bekwamelijk kan genomen worden van de beproeving van zulke personen aan de regelen hier voorgesteld, die door de regeerders der gemeente geschiedt.”

    Once side note 26 is read in context then you realize that the side note in no way endorses the ministry of an “underdeacon”. The commentary is actually regarding “And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon” in 1 Timothy 3:10.

    English translation of side note 26:
    “26) be tested first,
    Some take this as if there had been a lower stage in this ministry, which they call under deacon, in which they had to be tried for a time; but it is not necessary, since this word can be taken aptly from the trial of such persons to the rules here presented by the rulers of the congregation.”

    Afrikaans translation of side note 26:
    “26) moet eers getoets word,
    Sommige beskou dit asof daar 'n laer stadium was in hierdie bediening, wat hulle onder diaken noem, waarin hulle 'n geruime tyd beproef word; maar dit is nie nodig nie, aangesien hierdie woord op gepaste wyse geneem kan word van die verhoor van sulke persone tot die reëls wat hier deur die leiers van die gemeente aangebied word.”

    When read in context it would seem that an “underdeacon” doesn’t meet the requirements yet to use the office of a deacon (which is non-existent in the OAC).

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    1. The OAC members change the Bible to suit themselves, 1 TIM 3:10 is read as “And let these also first use the office of an underdeacon; then let them use the office of a priest”

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  6. 6 July 2020
    Current teaching: 2). How will we achieve making the Holy Bible part of our daily instruction and what is the value thereof? It is only by the grace of God that we have the God given opportunity to understand the Holy Bible spiritually and being able to make its instruction part of our daily lives. The words of the U/deacon and some great spirits transformed us to God’s will. [ROM 12:1-2]

    Romans 12:1-2
    I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

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    1. “…The words of the U/deacon and some great spirits transformed us to God’s will…”?

      Really?
      What’s wrong with the words in the Bible?
      What’s wrong with the epistles as recorded by Jesus’ own true apostles?
      Where is the “U/deacon” or “some great spirits” even mentioned in the quoted verses?

      Interesting that “U/deacon” is spelled with a capital letter and “spirits” is spelled with small letters; that says a lot!

      This should immediately raise a red flag!
      Evil spirits are typically plural (Matthew 8:16, Matthew 10:1, Matthew 12:43-45, Mark 1:25-27, Mark 3:10-12, Mark 5:6-13, Mark 6:7-9, Luke 4:33-36, Luke 6:17-19, Luke 7:21, Luke 8:2, Luke 11:24-26, Acts 5:16, Acts 8:7, Acts 19:11-17, 1 Timothy 4:1-3, Revelations 16:13-14).
      Spiritual gifts are given to man by One Spirit – singular (1 Corinthians 12:1-11).

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